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New Book on the Horizon from Jenny Tiramani
<div>Jenny just sent me an email about this new book (due out April, 2011) <br/> <br/>http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seventeenth-Century-Womens-Dress-Patterns-Bk/dp/1851776311/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1282684102&amp;sr=1-1 <br/> <br/>Slightly outside of our period, but I'm sure there will be tons of useful information. The x-ray aspect looks fascinating. <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 4 replies </div>
Cauls and Flat Caps
<div>I am having a hard time finding solid documentation for their construction/patterning. Already went to the Atlantian MoAS link site, and I don't know where else to look. <br/> <br/> I don't have JSTOR, or anything related, but if there is a book generally held at large university libraries I have access to those. I have PoF, not PoF 4 or The Tudor Tailor. I'm I just missing some place really obvious to look?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 15 replies </div>
Mockado
<div>I have several yards of a grey no wale corduroy set aside for what started out as a ?I?ll think of something for it? project. I got it a few years ago, and since then due to researching and trying to use better materials when I can afford/find them, I?ve concluded that using it as if it was velvet feels a bit odd. <br/> <br/>Then I remembered the Tudor Tailor?s entry about mockado and its many uses. <br/> <br/>What I haven?t been able to pin point is when it came into use, who/what class exactly used it and what it looked like. Some definitions say it was wool and had a thick pile, others say it was short piled and coarse. Others mention it being a silk and linen blend. <br/>I don?t doubt there were different grades of it. <br/> <br/>Google has only turned up so much, <br/> <br/>Elizabethan treasures: the Hardwick Hall textiles mentions bed curtains of red mockado. <br/>In A Register of the Members of St. Mary Magdalen College, the inventory of William Darrel, died in 1576 had ?a payre of mockado breeches xx d.? As well as a ?frocke of fust mackado xvj d.? <br/> <br/> <br/>The Principal Navigations, Voyages, Traffiques and Discoveries of the English Nation ? Volume 11: ?Each woman hath with her also, according to her abilitie, all her familie trimmed vp in white mockado: the better sort and wealthier women goe in litters of Cedar artificially wrought and richly dressed.? But in context this seems to refer to the women of Japan in relation to funerals? <br/> <br/> <br/>The Arte of English Poesie, printed in 1589 ?And there is a decency of apparel in respect of the place where it is to be vsed: in the Court to be richely apparelled: in the countrey to weare more plain &amp; homely garments. For who would not thinke it a ridiculous thing to see a Lady in her milke-house with a velvet gowne, and at a bridal in her cassock of mockado:? <br/> <br/> <br/>Costume in England: A History of Dress to the End of the Eighteenth Century: <br/>"Thomas Lodge, in his " Wit's Miserie," 1596, speaks of the extravagance in dress that had begun to characterize the hitherto plain country folks. " The plowman, that in times past was contented in russet, must now a daies have his doublet of the fashion with wide cuts, his garters of fine silk of Granado to meet his Sis on Sunday. The farmer, that was contented in times past with his russet frock and Mockado sleeves, now sells a cow against Easter to buy him. silken geere for his credit." <br/> <br/> <br/>Does anyone have any other thoughts or bits of information on it? I am not sure if I should just make a gown out of it and chalk it up to having to use modern materials.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 16 replies </div>
Wired veil? What is that on her head?
<div>Trying to sort out what a widow's headdress looked like in the late 1500s. So far I've come up with: <br/> <br/>Catherine De Medici - http://art.thewalters.org/webimages/PL9_37.415_Fnt_SL_T.jpg <br/> <br/>I'm seeing a black veil over a black coif. Is there a wire in front to make the point? Any tips as to how to attach wire to my silk gauze without wrecking it? <br/> <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 3 replies </div>
Working on first set of detachable sleeves...
<div>Any tips and suggestions for construction and attachment? My first English outfit. Lower class artificer outfit - kirtle with detachable sleeves. Oops...I need to figure out how to do sleeve caps as well to attach the sleeves. (This is why I like doing a Scots character: much simpler.) Help?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 11 replies </div>
Elizabethan Concert on September 19, 2010
<div>On Sunday, September 19, 2010, at 5:00, the Guild of St. George and the Wessex Consort will present ?All Ye Who Music Love?, a program of fanfares, songs, dances, and madrigals from Elizabethan England. This hour long program will be performed in the Gothic style sanctuary of the First United Methodist Church of Whittier (13222 Bailey Street) as part of the Pollyanne Baxter Memorial Concert Series. Admission is free. <br/> <br/>The singers of the St. George Early Music Ensemble and the instrumentalists of the Wessex Consort will perform in costume and in character, presenting Renaissance music as entertainment for the Elizabethan aristocracy. The program will include such familiar madrigals as ?Hark all ye lovely saints above? and ?The silver swan? as well as rarely performed works from the Italian and English madrigal traditions. The program will also include Italian court dances embraced by the English court. <br/> <br/>Those who live in Southern California are cordially invited to join us for this free concert. For more information, please visit www.guildofstgeorge.org or www.wessexconsort.com, or contact the First United Methodist Church of Whittier, at (562) 698-0022.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 0 replies </div>
Any tips for a new corset wearer?
<div>I just finished making my first Elizabethan corset. Really not used to all that boning! Any tips for how I'm supposed to position/tie/wear the darned thing? </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 11 replies </div>
Pants and Women
<div>Greetings all, <br/> <br/>In preparation for this coming faire, I'm in the process of outfitting my friends. We want to stay as period as possible, however I have one friend with an issue. She is a female, and was raised by a rabid-foaming-at-the-mouth feminist. She dislike skirts with a passion. Fine with bodices and the like, just hates skirts in most cases, to the point of it almost causes her physical pain to have to wear them because she's not "being herself". Can anyone help me find ANYTHING relating to women wearing trews in the 16th-early 17th century? I have information on females cross-dressing as men, but she doesn't want to do that. Any advice would be great. <br/> <br/>Thank you, <br/> <br/>Jhim</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 13 replies </div>
Knitted and felted flat cap
<div>This is mostly for Pax and Eric, but also for anyone else who is interested: <br/>(original from a 16th century Venetian shipwreck) <br/>http://curiousfrau.com/Diaries/Knitted_Hat_Gagiana.htm <br/>http://curiousfrau.com/Tutorials/knitting_gagina.htm</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 8 replies </div>
Boycott Fashion Fabrics Club
<div>Placed an order for 30 yards of 3 different fabrics which didn't ship for 6 business days. Now, on their FAQs they say it takes 2-7 biz days to ship, but please, in this day and age, that's stupid. Ordered some buttons from the UK and they came the day the Fashion Fabrics Club email got to me saying they'd just shipped and that it would take another 7 days to reach me. When I got the order, it was only 2 of the 3 fabrics - no explanation on the packing slip why the third, one I need for a client, was missing. When I called, she said that in the FAQs it explains how the client is supposed to tell them if the client wants to be notified when a fabric is out of stock. What?! Are you kidding me?!!! So, two weeks later I'm still short 10 yards of wool gabardine when I could have headed out to JoAnn's. <br/>I know their prices are good, but there are too many other brick-and-morter and online resources for that kind of business practice. Please boycott them if you can! Thanks. <br/>Signed, <br/>Frustrated Carol</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 19 replies </div>
Sleeve Material??
<div> <br/>Hi Folks, <br/> <br/>I've a friend who is currently looking at the picture that is on this tribes frontpage (man in green with white falling collar). <br/>The question arose about what the sleeves could be made of, I'm not sure what they are made of but, think they may be pinked which, is a lot of pinking! But then I ran across this gentleman by the same artist Moroni: <br/>http://nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/giovanni-battista-moroni-portrait-of-a-gentleman <br/> <br/>and his sleeves they say are the type of "tunic" worn under armor so, is that a knitted shirt or what??? <br/>The zoom on this is pretty darn good so you can get really close to it.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 16 replies </div>
Stomachers ? Elizabethan?
<div>Hi Folks, <br/> <br/>I am trying to sort out when stomachers became fashionable for wear by upper class English women. <br/> <br/>To be clear, by ?stomacher? I specifically mean a decorated contrasting piece worn under or on top of the front of a bodice by upper class/noble women. <br/> <br/>So far I have not found any reference to this sort of item prior to c. 1590 other than a ?placard? worn by pregnant women to fill in the front of a loosely laced open front gown. Most stomachers seem to be post 1600. As far as I have seen, a stomacher looks to be a separate, boned, removable piece that is pinned or sewn over the front of the corset but under the edges of an open front bodice with the edges of the bodice then pinned or tacked to the stomacher. <br/> <br/>As near as I can tell, I have NOT seen any evidence of a stomacher being a piece that gets sewn on top of the front of a back lacing bodice nor have I seen any evidence that it was a panel sewn into the front of the bodice in the manner that one sees it done on many ren faire costumes. <br/> <br/>So, my questions are: <br/> <br/>1) What is the earliest date that a stomacher can be said to have been fashionable? <br/>2) Has anyone seen evidence of a stomacher being worn on top of or sewn as a panel into a bodice? <br/>3) Does anyone consider a decorated stomacher to be appropriate for the period 1560s to 1580s? If so, is there period artwork that supports this? (So far I haven't found any) <br/> <br/>Any help is appreciated, <br/>Thanks, <br/>Vel</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 31 replies </div>
bumrolls
<div>I have been told that a bum roll is a good idea for all ladies, but I wonder if the lower class wore them? Thought I'd ask before I deliberately make my butt look bigger :)</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 14 replies </div>
Apprentices
<div>Anybody have images of Elizabethan apprentices in their robes?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 15 replies </div>
HA Elizabethan Sword Rig
<div>This is crossposted from RenFaire History Snobs tribe. <br/> <br/>Ever since reading the Tudor Tailor and seeing the beautifully embroidered Elizabethan Rapier Rig, I have been trying to find a similar one to add to my garb. I have looked everywhere and went so far as to contact Jane and Ninya of Tudor Tailor to see where they got theirs, which they graciously gave me. Unfortunately everything led to a dead end as all their sources had stopped making the hardware. And then a year ago, I struck gold! I was at the Pittsburgh Renaissance Faire and there hanging outside a booth was an Elizabethan Rapier Rig that had all the right hardware!!! I got their card and placed a call when I got home and ordered my own! The website for the contact information (for whatever reason its still not on their website but they do make and sell it) is: www.excaliburleather.com/ It is a bit pricey depending on what you want done but that is mostly because they have to have all the hardware hand made. Mine was $200. If you call to order one, tell them you want the "Elizabethan Sword Rig". Their leather artist is very willing to work with you and when I explained what character I portrayed and that it wanted it as HA as possible, he found an appropriate portrait that showed the belt detail and made mine to match. And when part of the dye didn't take properly by the time I got it, he gladly fixed it so that it would be correct. I'll take a picture of it here by itself and post it up here soon so you can see the work. Its fantastic and adds that much more authenticity to my character. I was stoked to find it and being new to this site figured you would be interested in it too since they are so hard to find. </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 1 reply </div>
heavy duty sewing
<div>Hello all. <br/> <br/>I'm still fairly new to all this and I do my own SCA costuming for a late period Spaniard who is into fencing, (among other things). This means MULTIPLE layers of often heavy material. An example would be a doublet constructed with a showy brocade outer layer, backed by 3 layers of bottomweight cotton or linen or poplin for puncture resistance. That gives me 4 heavy layers, seamed over another 4 heavy layers. Then I have to sew seams OVER some of those seams. Or add multilayer epaulettes, collars, tabs, etc. You guys, of all people, know what I'm talking about. I also want to eventually build a pavilion and a nice dayshade out of Sunforger canvas. I also want to be able to work with light to medium weight leather. This is all eventually going to ruin my current machine (I have a Viking-Husqvarna "Fresia-415"). <br/> <br/>When I talk to sewing machine salesmen about upgrading to a heavier machine, they act like I'm a complete lunatic for trying to do any of this on a typical homeowner machine. They inevitably try to steer me toward a shiny new $1500 - $2500 industrial machine. Usually with a compound feed walking foot. Sometimes with a built-in oil bath under the machine head. No doubt, that would be nice, but I need to consider options (including price, what features I NEED, what I DON'T need, service in the future, usability, etc). So I have some questions for this group of sewing veterans. Here are some machines that have been recommended by various people, with various pros and cons: <br/> <br/>Vintage (like Singer 201) <br/>New or Used Industrial Dressmaker Machine (Head &amp; Stand) <br/>New or Used Industrial Walking Foot (Head &amp; Stand) <br/>Used Heavy Duty Older Machines (much heavier than mine, but still portable) <br/>Sailrite Walking Foot (with or without zigzag) <br/> <br/>Some people tell me I would do well with a true walking foot machine (not just an attachment) because of the multiple layers I often run into. How true is that? What are the pros and cons? <br/> <br/>I run into 2 distinct types: straight stitch only -vs- straight and zigzag. How important is zigzag to SCA costuming? Where and how should I be using it? I have no traditional training whatsoever with sewing. I'm just making it up as I go along. <br/> <br/>Help me think through all these options. What things should I consider? What would you steer me toward? And WHY? <br/> <br/>-Russ (aka "Juan Diego")</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 10 replies </div>
Blue Doublets? (X-Post from Ren Faire History Snobs)
<div>Does anyone have any sources for blue doublets being worn by the lower and middle classes? A lighter shade of blue that could easily be obtained with woad and/or indigo to be specific. <br/> <br/>I'm considering making a blue doublet, but having seen very few sources, I'll probably go a different direction. <br/> <br/>Thus far, I've only found a small figure in one of John White's watercolors of Frobisher's journeys in the New World ( http://tinyurl.com/djp22g ) <br/>-The image is very small, I'd be eternally grateful if anyone has a larger copy- and some coats worn by peasants in Pieter Brughel the Elder's paintings. <br/> <br/>Thank you!!! <br/> <br/>-Dan</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 37 replies </div>
'peire of pleites'?
<div>Hi all, <br/> <br/>I was hoping some folks here might have some insight into a new term (to me) that was in an inventory item for Queen Mary Tudor's wardrobe accounts. <br/> <br/>[30] Item for lyning of a peire of pleites of a frenche Gowne of crymsen Satten <br/> <br/>What is a 'peire of pleites'?? There is a similar entry at 32, again for a French gown but with 'Murrey vellat'. <br/> <br/>It isn't sleeves, as sleeves are noted. It isn't a partlet, as those are noted, too, as is a forepart. Any ideas or OED info, please?? <br/> <br/>Thank you.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 10 replies </div>
Drawers on women-folk
<div>Howdy all you well-read people. At Valhalla this year I overheard a theoretically knowledgeable costumer type telling a customer (who was looking for accurate information about women's costume) that women in Elizabethan England didn't wear drawers because it was thought that the fabric around their nether regions would enflame their lustful thoughts and that was a big no-no. <br/> <br/>This set off some alarm bells for me. I have never seen this piece of information ANYWHERE. I have read contemporary accounts demonstrating that women were thought to be the more lustful sex. I have also read contemporary railings against women cross-dressing or wearing clothing styled like men's garments as immodest, though that was mostly by religious outliers. I have a hard time buying that a society that could produce so many jokes about impotence and cuckolding, not to mention the references to women feeling entitled to regular sex from their husbands, would have a wide-spread cultural prohibition against drawers because of lustful thoughts. That's sounds like a post-Victorian just-so story to me. <br/> <br/>Has anyone seen any reference to this somewhere reliable? </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 29 replies </div>
The Myth(?) of Detachable Sleeves in Elizabethan Doublets.
<div>For many years, I've encountered the concept of men's doublets from all strata of society almost always having detachable/interchangeable sleeves in innumerable books and websites, Renaissance Faires, and even in living history settings (I have seen many examples of removable sleeves in photos of Jamestown, etc.) <br/> <br/>Despite this, I have encountered very few examples of this feature in extant garments, artwork, or written sources from the period. Those places where I have encountered detachable sleeves in men's garments appear to purpose-made for very specific contexts. <br/> <br/>This has led me to believe that interchangeable sleeves in men?s doublets are for the most part a myth or ?renfair/reenactorism.? I am still looking for sources, and am very happy to accept anything you?ve got to construct an accurate picture of the historical reality. <br/> <br/>Detachable sleeves seem to be quite common in women's clothing from the period, and so will not be addressed here. <br/> <br/> <br/>Those examples are as follows? <br/> <br/>1.) Working Class Garments. The only place I have seen examples in artwork is in a painting of a butcher by Joachim Beuckelaer from 1568. http://tinyurl.com/yjrhqt3 The only written source I have found is from well after the period (1641), in the required equipment list for gutting fish for fishermen. The line reads... "A paire of Tanned Leather sleeves will cost 18 pence." <br/> <br/>The use of removable and/or additional sleeves make perfect sense for working class men. This feature would be very useful for preventing messes or protection while using sharp tools. <br/> <br/>2.) Children's Garments. One of only two male garments with detachable sleeves in Janet Arnold's Patterns of Fashion is a child's doublet. <br/> <br/>Once again, this makes a great deal of sense. Children play rough and are constantly growing. <br/> <br/>3. Martial Garments. The only other extant male garment with detachable sleeves in Patterns of Fashion is a jerkin/doublet intended for fencing. <br/> <br/>Garments meant for martial, but not necessarily military, use seem to exist in their own realm. They often have a few nuances that are rather unique. Removable sleeves for a sport-fencing garment make sense as comfort while practicing or sparring might be desired. Another of those nuances is doublets/jerkins having a ?lace-up? front. Martial garments seem to be the only place where those occur, but that?s for another discussion. I?m very happy to talk about that as well though. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>These few examples appear to be exceptions to the rule even within their own niches. Cross-referencing artwork, written sources (wills, inventories, song lyrics, sonnets, etc.), and extant garments shows that even amongst men in messy professions, children, and martial artists, detachable sleeves are very much in the minority. <br/> <br/>Further cross-referencing turns up nothing else to suggest that detachable sleeves in doublets were even remotely common. With the exception of those examples above, they simply might as well not exist. Even amongst detailed household inventories listing garments down to the fabric, color, or quality, they do not appear, and there is nothing to suggest points, eyelets, lacing, or gaps under the arm at the shoulder in any sort of artwork. <br/> <br/>I would further question why this would be a common feature of clothing if there was almost nothing like it in the centuries that preceded or followed it in neither fashionable nor utility garments, especially if there was a ?mini Ice Age? on. <br/> <br/> <br/>I should add that in all those books and websites, the authors provided no support or sources for their slant on sleeves. I can list those books and sites I remember if desired. <br/> <br/>So what do you think? <br/> <br/>-Dan </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 60 replies </div>
Constructing Trunkhose
<div>I am currently using the trunkhose pattern in the Tudor Tailor, the instructions seem pretty straightforward and simple. Has anyone had any experience working up this pattern before? How'd it turn out? Photos of your work? <br/>I am trying to use all stash fabrics for this one, and keeping it all natural fibers as much as possible to keep down the heat(lots of layers in these boys!). <br/> <br/>For the TT pattern, I am curious about the foundation piece being cut on the bias. This seems like a great idea(giving you stretch across the bum and whatnot), but seems like a huge waste of fabric. Is this purely conjecture? I plan on doing this pair up as close to the book as possible, since it's my first pair, and the first pattern that's actually seemed doable, but I'd like to know for future projects. <br/> <br/>I had even scaled up the Janet Arnold trunkhose pattern for my boyfriend, and did it in muslin, and it turned out all wrong, so I went elsewhere for patterns. <br/> <br/>There is very little actual information out on the net about putting these things together(if I'm wrong, please send links!)</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 4 replies </div>
Cut Cloth Netherhose of Linen?
<div>Has anyone ever happened upon anything that would suggest cut cloth hose were ever made of linen in England in the latter half of the 16th century? <br/> <br/>The Tudor Tailor has an image of a German pair of linen full hosen from the early part of the century and the latest Patterns of Fashion has a few examples of linen hose to be worn under boots or outer hose/stockings, but were these outer stockings ever made of cut linen? <br/> <br/>Thanks! <br/> <br/>-Dan</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 1 reply </div>
Selling some Doublets from the SF Costume Sale
<div>Is it ok to post this? I have some doublets on ebay that I thought you might like to see or buy. I'll be listing more later. Hope I'm not breaking any rules by posting it here, if so, please delete it and let me know. My eBay seller name is Flap8. <br/> <br/>Check them out, and hope you like them!</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 0 replies </div>
Best online tutorial for making a flat cap
<div>I realize this may have been asked many times, but does anyone know of a good tutorial with PICTURES? Just the basic/standard/plain flat cap will do, as I have feather and trim ideas and nothing to put them on. <br/> <br/>Oh, and if my gown is brown linen and middle/lower class, what color should my hat be? My gown has red accents on the collar. <br/> <br/>Looking forward to your replies! </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 13 replies </div>
Corded Petticoats
<div> <br/>I've got someone who is interested in making a corded petticoat does anyone have good informational sites for these? <br/>Recommendations for cording and fabric amounts are also appreciated. <br/> <br/>Thanks! <br/>P</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 5 replies </div>
Margaret Tudor
<div>I like this very much. How do you think the fabric was woven... <br/> <br/>http://www.marileecody.com/henry7/margarettudorunknown1.jpg</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 7 replies </div>
doublets with yokes, very 1595-1610
<div> <br/>I've noticed that doublets with yokes are very popular. They look very rakish, often made with contrasting materials and so on. <br/> <br/>Yokes on doublets appear to a style of ca. 1595 - 1610 or so, reaching their peak around 1609. The padded leather arming doublet of 1595-1605, and the two leather doublets of c. 1610 in Janet's work are excellent examples. A wonderful satin version in Rubens' self portrait of 1609-10 with Isabella Brant is another. <br/> <br/>Its interesting that of the extant examples in Janet's book, all three are leather arming garments, suggesting a sporting style probably popular with young men. Rubens' satin doublet is a dressier version, worn by a young man rising up in the world, rakishly dressed along with his wife to be. <br/> <br/>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Peter_Paul_Rubens_105.jpg <br/> <br/>On the extant examples, as with the Rubens portrait, the yoke pattern is defined only by applied lace or lines of stitching. No contrasting material is in evidence at all. But with apple green silk on buff leather, or black lace on tawny satin, who could want for more? <br/> <br/>Its really too bad nobody does 1610, its a great year for style. <br/> <br/>The doublet styles of 1560s and 70s are very different. Yokes are not yet in fashion, and what pattern work exists is in a very different manner - usually lines of lace along the seams and openings, and / or overall patterns cut into the fabric of finer garments. <br/> <br/>The only use of yokes in the 1560s and 70s seems to have been in leather jerkins with vertical leather slashes. The yoke was functionally necessary to support the garment at the shoulders - or at least had been at some point, even if it became stylishly codified. <br/> <br/>Since so many people are interested in, and aiming for, reconstructing doublets in a 1560s-70s fashion, it might be a good idea to ignore the sirens, tie yourself to a mast, and avoid the yoke. <br/> <br/>H <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 34 replies </div>
Encyclopedia of Medieval Dress and Textiles
<div> <br/>New book to be on the look out for when released! <br/>From www.artbooks.com <br/> <br/> <br/>Catalog Number: 107510 <br/>Title: Encyclopaedia of Medieval Dress and Textiles <br/>Author: Owen-Crocker, Gale R <br/>Price: $195.00 <br/>ISBN: 9789004124356 <br/>Description: Leiden: Brill, 2011. Summary: The single volume Encyclopaedia of Medieval Dress and Textiles of the British Isles c. 450-1450 is a unique work that intends to bring together the latest research from across the range of disciplines which contribute to our knowledge of medieval dress and textiles. There has been a long-standing interest in the subject, which has recently manifested itself in a flowering of research and publications, including activities by the editors of the Encyclopaedia: the foundation of DISTAFF (Discussion, Interpretation and Study of Textile Arts, Fabrics and Fashion) as an umbrella organization for the presentation of papers at the major medieval congresses in Kalamazoo and Leeds (Netherton and Owen-Crocker); the establishment of the annual journal Medieval Clothing and Textiles (Netherton and Owen-Crocker); the Manchester Medieval Textiles Project (Coatsworth and Owen-Crocker); and the AHRC Lexis of Cloth and Clothing Project (Owen-Crocker and Sylvester). There is a clear need for an interdisciplinary reference work which will introduce readers to various sources of evidence, and give clear information about the most recent discoveries and interpretations and bibliographical guidance to readers. Publication scheduled for July 2011, further details forthcoming </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 3 replies </div>
Thisis fun
<div>http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.houseffg.org/belphoebe/Images/Civitatis/orleans2.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.houseffg.org/belphoebe/Research/Civitates.html&amp;usg=__9V7BXdoDtBPOwIs-NfSUzVNT1l0=&amp;h=775&amp;w=650&amp;sz=186&amp;hl=en&amp;start=29&amp;um=1&amp;itbs=1&amp;tbnid=rM8aGXY-Wm-bhM:&amp;tbnh=142&amp;tbnw=119&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3DItalian%2Bpartlets%26start%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26ndsp%3D20%26tbs%3Disch:1</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 10 replies </div>
Embroidered Gloves
<div>I was going to stick this on an embroidery tribe, but they haven't seen any posts or comments there since my last post middle of last year. <br/> <br/>So I figured I would post them here, for folks to at least drool over. <br/>http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/wiltshire/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_8302000/8302446.stm <br/>Embroidered gloves of Charles I, Sir Walter Raleigh, and Queen Elizabeth I, among others... although those two look awfully similar in styles to each other. But that's how they are labeled.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 14 replies </div>
Hat wowness!
<div>I just got a Short Noble Hat from www.lapalomahats.com <br/>It is beautiful and came in 3 days!</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 4 replies </div>
Digital Archive: Conservation of the Medici Burial Clothes
<div>How kind of the people who did this work to put it online for us to see! <br/> <br/>"The conservation of the clothes in which Cosimo I de? Medici, his wife Eleonora di Toledo and one of their son Don Garzia were buried was a long and difficult project, not only to execute but also to document.The interventions took ten years to complete but the documentation procedure continued for many more years thereafter until the entire corpus of photographic material (in the form of circa 3,600 35mm color slides) was catalogued and digitized for future consultation. <br/> <br/>"The digital photographic archive is the result of the unification of three principle photographic sources: those taken by Janet Arnold, by Mary Westerman Bulgarella and by Marcello Bertoni.Soon after Janet Arnold?s death in 1998, her slides were bequeathed to Mary Westerman Bulgarella with the stipulation that when she had used them for whatever purpose she deemed fit, they would be donated to the Galleria del Costume in Palazzo Pitti, Florence where the burial garments are conserved. It was also specified that the photographic material, once in the possession of the Soprintendenza, would be available to all for future consultation at no charge." <br/> <br/>http://archiviomedici.costume-textiles.com/ <br/> <br/>Search functionality is under the Restauro/Conservation link. Additional categorization is under Conferenze/Lectures.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 5 replies </div>
Slide presentations online from 2008 Costume Colloquium
<div>If you would like to be able to view most of the presentations given at the Costume Colloquium: A Tribute To Janet Arnold in 2008 in Florence, Italy, now you can! <br/> <br/>-Go to the attached link. <br/>-Register (just an email address and your name, but they will send you 2 separate authorization emails - approximately 3 minutes) a...nd log in. <br/>-When you have logged in, find the text that says, "Presentations on line." Click on that text. A new browser tab or window will open with a list of presentations. <br/>-Click on any presenter's name in blue to open the slideshow they gave, along with audio of the talk. The talks appear to be 15-25 minutes each, but I haven't tried them all yet. <br/> <br/>(Not as easy as if it were all on YouTube, but so great that it's available at all!)</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 13 replies </div>
Men's "Riding Hats????"
<div>After the post asking for patterns for tall hats, it made me wonder if there was any sort of documentation for men wearing "riding hats" as I've heard them called. They're very very popular amongst both men and women at my local faire, but I've never seen men wearing them in primary sources. Does anyone have anything on this? It's mostly a curiosity thing. <br/> <br/>To clarify, here's the kind of hat I'm referring to. <br/> <br/>http://www.lapalomahats.com/images/tall3.jpg <br/> <br/>http://www.lynnmcmasters.com/hatsfullsize/blacktallhat.jpeg <br/> <br/> <br/>-Dan</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 44 replies </div>
Images wanted
<div>I am collaborating on creating a new set of costume standards for Elizabethan themed events. Period images of common folk are rare, unclear and stylized. <br/> <br/>We'd like to include lots of good photos of well-made, modern representations of lower, yeoman and middle class outfits. <br/> <br/>If you have photos of this kind that you wouldn't mind having used, please contact me privately. Full credit given where it's due.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 0 replies </div>
Elizabethan single jewels
<div>Hi, <br/> <br/>I have the most fabulous collection of Elizabethan "single jewels' for glueing or sewing onto costumes and clothing. Do take a peek at <br/>www.baubletjes.etsy.com <br/> <br/>Thanks <br/>Jay</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 22 replies </div>
Tall hats
<div>Where to buy, or good pattern?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 5 replies </div>
Ruffs: excuses and explanations
<div>We all love ruffs!!!! They are sooooo pretty and give SUCH a period look. Thanks to Noel, the Casa court and others (like St. George folks) got a fantastic, amazing, informative, entertaining workshop on how to block (that the right term?) ruffs. It was, however, probably a little late for folks to try making them for this season. We've all been encouraged to do so for the following season and we should all see tons of ruffs next year, I'd imagine! The enthusiasm is there, but not the time... <br/>That said, I would love to see posts of photos of ruffs people have made...that possible here? Keep the motivation going?? Oh, and matching cuffs...swoon...</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 64 replies </div>
Anyone know this period material?
<div>Hi Folks, <br/> <br/>While digging thru inventories of the wardrobe of Mary, Queen of Scots, I have come across several metions of something called "steming": <br/> <br/>Examples: <br/> <br/>"A cloak of black steming garnished on the forebreast with jennets (fur) and the border of the same..." <br/> <br/> "A cloak of steming the forebreast lined with arming (quilting?) and a border of the same." <br/> <br/>Anyone know what "steming" is? <br/> <br/>Thanks, <br/>Vel</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 10 replies </div>
Extant Partlets??
<div>I was going over Arnold's last book, Patterns of Fashion 4, last night and finally noticed that there is only one extant partlet, in plain linen, noted in the book. (Some of you may have read my rant on this in another post.) <br/> <br/>Does anyone here know if there are any other extent partlets, plain or decorated, around? Or if there is anyone who has done, or is doing research in this area? <br/> <br/>Thank you.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 46 replies </div>
Leather style and source
<div>Well, I think I'm about to embark on Dudley's white leather jerkin. <br/> <br/>What would be the right kind of leather for the garment, and what sources are the best? <br/> <br/>Links?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 14 replies </div>
Hat blanks
<div>I need to make one of Walter Raleigh's signature hats, but I don't want to go to all the trouble of blocking it. <br/> <br/>I want to begin with a felt blank with a wide brim which already has the crown flat/squared. <br/> <br/>Anybody have a source for such an animal that won't break the bank? Available in tan would be even better.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 10 replies </div>
New book coming
<div>There is a new book coming later this year, that might be of interest to those who portray "common folks" of the Elizabethan through Stuart eras. <br/> <br/>Clothes of the Common Man by Stuart Peachey. <br/>Paperback: 304 pages <br/>Publisher: Oxbow Books (July 31, 2010) <br/>Language: English <br/>ISBN-10: 1842174088 <br/>ISBN-13: 978-1842174081 <br/> <br/>Product Description <br/>Men and women's costume throughout history is an area of great diversity, about which it is very misleading to try and make up simple rules. This extensively illustrated volume focuses on the clothes of common people in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. What can be shown where the evidence exists is what was owned, worn and constructed in certain cases. As well as providing a wealth of information on the style and material of clothes worn by men, women and children during this period, this book will also be an invaluable source for re-enactors. Stuart Peachey advises and guides those creating replica costumes, from using the correct materials for the role one is trying to represent, to dying, if appropriate, with the correct dyestuffs, to cutting an appropriate pattern, to assemblage and wear. By exploring the historical evidence available and practically applying it in order to construct accurate replicas of these garments, Peachey has not only created a well-researched academic study, but also a practical guide for those endeavouring to recreate costume of this period. <br/> <br/>It's on discount pre-order status at Amazon.com, and also available through Oxbow/David Brown books. <br/> <br/>Stuart Peachy wrote &amp; co-wrote small pamphlets on common folks clothing, and he is one of the fellows in Tales from the Green Valley. So it looks like this book might be an update on these pamphlets, maybe. I am not seeing confirmation on his web site. <br/>http://www.stuart-hmaltd.com/clothes_textiles_1580_1660.php</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 15 replies </div>
Article on Costuming Dolls
<div> <br/>This is a pretty cool article! :) <br/>http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/renaissance_quarterly/v060/60.1croizat.pdf</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 11 replies </div>
Sources on Maternity/Breastfeeding appropiate wear??
<div>Please help... <br/> <br/>I am trying to find some documentation or at least some clues about appropriate designs for breastfeeding and/or maternity wear in the early period for lower and middle classes. The only reference I have come across so far is in the Winter source stating that the vertical slashes in the Spanish surcote design "might" be for new mothers' convenience in feeding. <br/> <br/>The Spanish surcote (in rougher materials of course) seems a bit odd choice for a lower class, even a well-off one, so I am looking for any options/suggestions for adaption or alternatives. The thought of lacing and unlacing several times a day or losing support to expediate that process is a bit off-putting and seems like it would be terribly impractical. <br/> <br/>I figure this would be the best place to tap into costuming research buffs :-) Thank you in advance for any help or direction you can provide. <br/> </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 22 replies </div>
Costume Vendor question
<div>Greetings, please accept my apologises before I begin for my ignorance. This year will be my first time attending a ren faire as a vendor. I make renaissance/elizabethan costumes and am completely clueless as to how much product or an idea of which of my garments I should bring with me for a 3 day faire. Any and all suggestions would greatly be appreciated. I hope to possibly see some of you at the faire.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 5 replies </div>
Sable fur
<div>Hello ladies and gentlemen, <br/> <br/>I am trying to figure out if the two following gentlemen are wearing sable fur lined gowns. I don't know furs well, but that's what it looks like to my uneducated (about furs) eye. <br/> <br/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nicholas_Hilliard_006.jpg <br/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hans_Holbein_d._J._065.jpg <br/> <br/>Here's an image (large file size) of a woman wearing a modern Russian sable fur coat on the collar, for comparison. <br/>http://lushfurs.com/images/dscf4260.jpg <br/> <br/>Here's a beech martin fur blanket to give an alternate possible fur type (more in common with a lower station person). <br/>http://www.master-furrier.com/beech-marten-blanket-p-34.html <br/> <br/>And to top it off, would they, both having been Lord Chancellors, but both being common-born be able to wear sable fur, considering this admonition from the Sumptuary Laws (as Magge has on her site). Or has their new high rank given them the privilege to wear sable? <br/> <br/>None shall wear in his apparel: <br/> Any silk of the color of purple, cloth of gold tissued, nor fur of sables, but only the King, Queen, King's mother, children, brethren, and sisters, uncles and aunts; and except dukes, marquises, and earls, who may wear the same in doublets, jerkins, linings of cloaks, gowns, and hose; and those of the Garter, purple in mantles only. <br/>http://www.elizabethan.org/sumptuary/who-wears-what.html <br/> <br/>Thoughts, please? And thank you.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 33 replies </div>
Dutch Cloak
<div>I want one of these: <br/>http://www.employees.org/~cathy/images/sleeved_cloak.jpg <br/> <br/>When looking for a pattern, I found this: <br/>http://katerina.purplefiles.net/Dafydd/DFL_Capotto1.html <br/> <br/>Anybody know of any commercially available patterns?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 33 replies </div>
OT: my blog...
<div>So, I posted something to my blog and nobody's commented. In fact, whenever I post, I don't get comments. Am I not posting in the right place? Does anyone SEE my blog on their front page?? Sorry to post this here, but I correspond the most on this Tribe and feel y'all will respond helpfully! <br/>Thanks, <br/>Carol</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 4 replies </div>
17th-century embroidery reproduction
<div>Ok, yum, yum, and yes, YUM! <br/>http://www.plimoth.org/embroidery-blog/ <br/>http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/12/10/plimoth_plantation_reproduces_17th_century_embroidered_jacket/</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 13 replies </div>
excellent period shoe source
<div>A good pair of period shoes are hard to find, and Sarah Juniper makes the best. She uses period methods, hand sewing and materials like vegetable tanned leather to build accurate, sturdy shoes that will last up to twenty years - and she will repair any of her shoes, even after many years. She supplies many of the best groups, including the Tudor Group in Britain. <br/> <br/>She specializes in the Tudor to Georgian periods for men and women. She also has several styles that are just right for the mid Tudor period, from slip ons to latchets to startups. Even better, she can make shoes or boots to your designs - have you ever lusted after a pair of shoes in a painting? Now you can have them on your own feet. <br/> <br/>http://www.sarahjuniper.co.uk/ <br/> <br/>http://www.sarahjuniper.co.uk/tudor.html <br/> <br/>Its easy to get shoes from Sarah. Just print out the form on her website, write down the measurements, pick out a style from her range or send pictures and descriptions if you have them - slashing, for example - and mail them off. US customers need no deposit - you just wait till they are ready. She prefers personal checks, which makes things simple, so just mail it off and its done. The turnaround time is remarkably fast, and the shoes arrive right on your doorstep. <br/> <br/>I got a pair recently and they fit perfectly, are comfortable and simply look and feel exactly right. They are the best shoes one could get, and they will last for years, taking whatever can be dished out. <br/> <br/>I don't normally rave about suppliers, but we want to keep people like Sarah around and in business. Drop her a line, look at her site and consider that shoes are an investment you need only make once, and should be the best. Don't you deserve it? <br/> <br/>H <br/> <br/> </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 2 replies </div>
Living History Podcast
<div>Interesting... <br/> <br/>http://livinghistorypodcast.com/ <br/> <br/>If you get a chance to listen in, what do you think? <br/> <br/>***Cross Posted to History Snobs***</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 1 reply </div>
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead - Film Version 1990
<div>Anyone seen this? I was wondering if the shirts they are wearing are accurate for the Elizabethan period. The pointy collars make me think they are later than Elizabethan, what do you think? </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 4 replies </div>
"meddle colour" ??
<div>I've recently come across a reference to a "meddle colour" cloak from 1574. <br/> <br/>According to the Middle English Dictionary, meddle color is "(a) Cloth made of wools dyed and mingled before they are spun, and either of one color or different shades of color; - parted, medley cloth of different colors, plied cloth; (b) medley cloth of a single color." <br/> <br/>Does anyone have more information on meddle colors? <br/> <br/>H</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 17 replies </div>
Church paintings site
<div>Here is a site devoted to church donor portraits from the 16th to the 18th centuries. They are all from Danish churches and depict members of the communities with their families. They show the patrons in their best dress, often regional, with a number of interesting details. <br/> <br/>http://www.livinghistory.dk/ <br/> <br/>The site in is Danish with an English language introduction. Navigating the site is simple and well worth it. <br/> <br/>H </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 4 replies </div>
OT related era
<div>Well, I was commissioned to create a gown for Dickens for someone in the Three Musketeers show. This Cavalier era gown had to look like a Victorian tailor designed and constructed it. I thought the most important thing to keep intact is the waist, since that's such a point of beauty and differs in every era. Didn't want to raise it to the appropriate Cavalier era location because Vics would have found that distasteful, no? Kept the Cavalier wide, low neckline and huge 3/4 sleeves, but put all the bulk of the skirt to the back avoiding poochiness under the long bodice...what do you think? Does it just look like a mid-Vic with Edwardian sleeves??? Can't see it objectively any more. <br/>http://people.tribe.net/5f6e6daf-0694-407f-8b58-30a5e7076ec8/photos/40166751-6942-4e0c-a71a-d6105b553b24</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 8 replies </div>
A female merchant
<div>Hi all, <br/> <br/>I am trying to come up with info on what a mid-level merchant woman (specifically a tailor's wife) would be dressed as. From colors to styles, something suitable for mid-Elizabethan era, as my area tends to do either early Elizabeth or late Elizabeth so I want something suitable for both. I know court styles, and I know husbandman level (aka peasants), but the merchant level seems to elude me a little. When I think I've got something, it seems more appropriate for either court or for peasants. And I am hoping to have this very accurate to the info we know of the period, not just "ren-faire usual". <br/> <br/>Thoughts or suggestions greatly appreciated.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 27 replies </div>
Ren Faire research help?
<div>Hello All- <br/> <br/>My name is Emily. I'm a graduate student doing some research on themed environments, living history displays and historical reenacting. Specifically, I'm interested in the issue of historical accuracy and authenticity at Renaissance Faires. I would very, very much appreciate it if you would take a minute or two to answer a survey; I'm trying to supplement on-site interviews conducted at King Richard's Faire in Massachusetts with the various perspectives of Ren Faire enthusiasts from across the country. If you're interested (have I begged enough? Because I'm certainly not above groveling...) please email me and I'll send the survey to you posthaste. <br/> <br/>Thank you in advance, <br/>Emily</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 0 replies </div>
more substantial eyelets/grommets?
<div>I hate those stretchy Dritz eyelets/grommets!!! Does anyone have a good source for stronger 2-piece eyelets/grommets? I'm looking for some "silver" in colour that can go through both fabric (stretch velvet) and about 1/8" of leather. Internal diameter 1/8 to 1/4 inch. It's not Elizabethan-related, but you all are so knowledgeable, this is the first place I thought to come to ask.. thanks!</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 11 replies </div>
teensy bit OT Question about whale parts and extant garments
<div>So, who here has actually seen "whale bone" boning and would know it if you saw it? <br/> <br/>Also when did we stop using animal bits for stays, either by scarcity or law or whate'er? <br/> <br/>Reason being, I'm working with an outfit for a play that is very old and of unknown provenance, which is in the style of the first bustle period in the late 19th, and I'm trying to guess just how old this dress is. <br/> Hints: the lining is super thin, had turned the color of a brown paper bag, it dry and flaky in places, shiny in places, and goes crunch when I sew it. The original consruction is entirely handsewn with later alterations and repairs by machine. The outer fabric is a lightweight gabardine which feels slighty scratchy and has selvadges that look like wool (I haven't a scrap to burn). The stays in the front (one poked out) are a dark flaky animal material that to me looks like horn, and is definitely not plastic. They are the width and twice the thickness of modern cable ties. The original thread is a bit darker brown than paper bag and a bit powdery with age, even though the gown is green. <br/> <br/> <br/>Anybody got any knowledge that would help me date this dress? Like history of stay materials? It's not quite E-bethan, but here's where all the clothes experts are, ao I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask. <br/> <br/>Cheers!</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 23 replies </div>
Could this pattern be modified for a woman?
<div>I have made minor adjustments to patterns, but could this pattern be altered to fit a woman? I got it for a dollar, and for that price I'll give it a try if you excellent people think it's possible. I am tall, but pretty curvy, which will cause problems.... Has anyone used this pattern? </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 8 replies </div>
Findings: The Material Culture of Needlework and Sewing - by Mary Beaudry
<div>I believe that the topic of this book has come up on this list before. Having not read the item in question, I was happy to see a knowledgeable review of the book here: <br/> <br/>http://togs-from-bogs.blogspot.com/2009/10/book-talk-mary-c-beaudry-findings.html?showComment=1255730294918#c9214046702722853303 <br/> <br/>Buyer beware...</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 4 replies </div>
Kunsthistorisches Museum - Miniature Portrait Gallery *all shots*
<div>Pictures from the 'portraits gallery' of the Kunsthistorisches Museum. Yes, they are continental (although there is at least one shot of Liz in here so far!), but I love them anyway. I have seen images of this wall many times, but "racaire" is the first person I know who has taken the time to photograph ALL the minature images on this wall and then webbed those images for others to look through. <br/> <br/>http://www.flickr.com/photos/racaire/3945891794/in/set-72157603342215251/?addedcomment=1#comment72157622494986286 <br/> <br/>Don't blame me if you spend the rest of the day scrolling through these!</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 72 replies </div>
slightly ot, thread
<div>I know thread ages, but was wondering if anyone had any idea at what point it should be tossed? I'm cleaning out my mother in laws sewing stuff (she passed away) and clearly I won't attempt to use thread on the wooden spools ;), but there's a lot of basic thread that's , oh 8 to 10 years old. <br/> <br/>Should I just toss it?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 19 replies </div>
Lacing
<div>I am making a lower class bodice, and need to know what to lace it with? Not grosgrain, I assume. Leather cord? Also, I used grommets (not the bright shiny ones, but still.....) should I cover them? It's not accurate is other ways (i.e. it has darts and bias tape) so should I even bother? I have the time and the ability. Thoughts?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 35 replies </div>
fabric storage
<div>Hi. I need to corral some large pieces of fabric I'm glad I bought but won't use soon. Is there any problem with storing them in space storage bags? <br/> <br/>Thanks.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 11 replies </div>
Reconstructing History, or Margo Anderson...
<div>My husband's in need of new breeches and possibly a doublet/jerkin for next season. <br/> <br/>For his current breeches, I used and modified the pattern from McCall's which also has a doublet pattern, but I want to be more historically accurate this time around. <br/> <br/>So, which pattern-smith is the best suited for a seamstress in need of clear instruction and ease of use? <br/> <br/>I appreciate all input. </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 22 replies </div>
Color Images
<div>Hey All, <br/> <br/>Just wandering around on the BSB (looking for German stuff, dontyaknow?) and stumbled into these. This is from a ?costume book? of foreign countries from around 1560-1570, early in the Queen reign. Take it with a grain of salt, but it is fun: <br/> <br/>http://mdzx.bib-bvb.de/codicon/Blatt_bsb00010526,00038.html <br/> <br/>The Italians: http://mdzx.bib-bvb.de/codicon/Blatt_bsb00010526,00033.html <br/>The Spanish: http://mdzx.bib-bvb.de/codicon/Blatt_bsb00010526,00021.html <br/>The Scandinavians (dig those shoes!): http://mdzx.bib-bvb.de/codicon/Blatt_bsb00010526,00019.html <br/> <br/>From another book which is the same manner of text: <br/> <br/>The IRISH! (You can all kiss or curse me for these images): <br/>http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/~db/0001/bsb00011752/images/index.html?seite=90 <br/>http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/~db/0001/bsb00011752/images/index.html?id=00011752&amp;fip=205.155.151.30&amp;no=&amp;seite=91 <br/>http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/~db/0001/bsb00011752/images/index.html?id=00011752&amp;fip=205.155.151.30&amp;no=1&amp;seite=92 <br/>http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/~db/0001/bsb00011752/images/index.html?id=00011752&amp;fip=205.155.151.30&amp;no=2&amp;seite=93 <br/> <br/>~Cherylyn</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 17 replies </div>
Black cotton velvet
<div>Do I pre-wash it? If so, how? etc. <br/>I will be using it for piping trim, forepart guard, and a flat cap on a wool gown. I have washed the wool. </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 17 replies </div>
Dry cleaner and wig shop needed!
<div>Hi, y'all, <br/>I'm looking for a reliable dry cleaner that is gentle with costumes in one of the following towns: <br/>* Mountain View <br/>* Redwood City <br/>* Palo Alto <br/>* Sunnyvale or <br/>* San Mateo <br/> <br/>Also, I'm in need of a good wig shop where they'll either clean and comb out some wigs for me or instruct me how to do it. Same cities. <br/> <br/>Thanks!!! <br/>Carol</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 1 reply </div>
Pewter button source?
<div>Looking for an inexpensive, reliable online source for elizabethan -reign style pewter buttons? <br/> <br/>Working on a black wool doublet and pewter would look so snazzy! Actually I'm just cutting out the fabric, the boyfriend is going to sew it up by hand. Aren't men who can sew just so sexy? <br/> <br/>Mrrow.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 39 replies </div>
Poly/cotton lacing
<div>Ok, how about this one: know of an online source that 1) carries flat poly/cotton lacing, 2) will sell you a gross quantity, and 3) has it in stock? Only place I could find that has the white in stock is Greenberg and Hammer, but they are out of stock on the black and that's what I need. I've tried Richard the Thread, the Corset Room (or whatever that is in Seattle) etc. None of them fit the 3 criteria. <br/> <br/>Another question: I bought 100% cotton lacing in black and white by the spool from Greenberg and Hammer a couple of years ago and am having an awful time of it. It keeps breaking when I use it for corsets! The stuff is too soft, I suppose - thread twist not high enough. That's why I'm going for some poly content for clients. I've been using nylon for myself 'cause I just won't put up with stuff breaking. Want to offer clients a more authentic garment, but not at the expense of their getting caught at an event with a broken lace! Thoughts?!</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 9 replies </div>
Grommet/lacing tape
<div>Does anyone know where I can get (online) 1 3/8" black twill tape with grommets set 1" apart? Basically, lacing tape? Lacis carries, but was wondering if anyone knows of an online source cheaper than the $2/yard at Lacis. Some places have really expensive stuff ($11-17/yard!), but if Lacis is selling for $2 and I know they have a huge mark-up, where are they getting it from? The twill isn't really tightly woven, but for my purposes, it's just fine. Anybody?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 4 replies </div>
caveat emptor
<div>Let the buyer beware. <br/>Just a reminder to never assume that descriptions of store or online fabrics are correct. I just purchased several swatches from fabric.com and fashionfabricsclub.com which were ALL specifically described as 100% wool. Several, according to my burn and bleach tests, contain other materials, and some have little wool content at all. Always check a swatch!</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 4 replies </div>
Linen Sale
<div>http://www.fabrics-store.com/first.php?goto=showarticles&amp;menu=f&amp;article=1&amp;sa=1&amp;printed= <br/> <br/>Fabrics Store has put all their middle weight linen on sale at 15% off. Thought you might want to know.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 0 replies </div>
Beta Test duds are complete...
<div>http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing/photos/3e677d3f-ba2c-4653-8047-07a62bb5a8e4 <br/>I have posted some new pictures of my treatment of the Garzia deMedici suit of clothes treated with such intricacy by Janet Arnold in POF and photographed with amazing detail at 'Realm of Venus' (link below). <br/> <br/>They were patterned in a manner faithful to this extent doublet &amp; trunkhose in terms of seams, cut., piecing and especially the placement of the many, many eyelets. The doublet is almost entirely handwork, including embroidery. The buttons are handmade basket-woven linen thread over a wooden core as detailed on my "Doublet Diary" blog: http://garb4guys.blogspot.com/2008/02/buttoning-up-part-two.html <br/> <br/>This suit was made to beta test the pattern and provide examples &amp; fodder for period costume and construction discussions and will be shortly followed by a russet silk set that's a more exacting replication, to be made entirely by hand. I'll admit that I'm not looking forward to handsewing those panes for the trunkhosen, though, so I may well "allow" the hotrod to sew those for me depending on how my hands are feeling when that portion of the costuming comes up for completion. <br/> <br/>I modified the line of the doublet's waist a bit to conform my my long-waisted torso and the colors I chose were inspired by Moroni's tailor and the book "1000 Years of Textiles". The trunkhose were made under deadline pressures (a wedding) so were constructed mostly on the machine. <br/> <br/>I prototype and beta test all my patterns. This suit of clothes is the beta test. <br/> <br/>Moroni's Unknown Tailor <br/>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Giovanni_Battista_Moroni_001.jpg <br/> <br/>Extant Doublet &amp; Trunkhose of Don Garzia @ Realm of Venus <br/>http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/workbox/extmenclo1.htm</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 19 replies </div>
Cotton cording online?
<div>Hi All, <br/> <br/>I am hoping to find a source for cotton cording online. I want to use it for couching, so the thickness is not a huge consideration. A range of sizes could work. <br/> <br/>I could possibly also use a combo of poly/rayon and cotton, but I would have to see it to see if it would be matte enough. <br/> <br/>100% Rayon is just too shiny and I can't abide it in this application. <br/> <br/>Anyone? <br/> <br/>Thanks <br/>Val</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 2 replies </div>
Hoop wire
<div>Can folks send me their online or brick-and-morter (SF Bay Area) resources for plastic hoop wire? I bought some stuff from Lacis that is too flimsy and absolutely doesn't hold up to even a broadcloth farthingale. I like the linen covered metal, but the client wants plastic. Help!</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 31 replies </div>
Pill box hats
<div>For some reason I'm suddenly curious. Could someone please talk about the ubiquitous "pill box" style Elizabethan ladies' cap/hat? What is it really? Should it really be a pill box or has that just become a stand-in for some harder to replicate shape? Pictures? Anyone?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 7 replies </div>
French Hoods with padded rolls?
<div>HI Folks, <br/> <br/>Several new cast members have asked me about wearing French hoods with padded rolls instead of crescents (ala page 140 of Winter and Savoy's "Elizabethan Costuming for the Years 1550 to 1580") and I can't seem to find any paintings or drawing from period of English ladies wearing anything like this. <br/> <br/>I am not sure if these padded roll hoods are period correct or if they were ever worn by the English...I wonder if this is a misinterpretation of something else ??? <br/> <br/>Can anyone point me to a painting or other source for these padded roll hoods or does anyone know the origin of this hat appearing in the Winter and Savoy book? <br/> <br/>thanks, <br/>Vel</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 27 replies </div>
Sewing machines
<div>My 25-year-old SInger is getting crotchety and I am considering acquiring a new machine. Most of my sewing is Elizabethan costuming in nature, with possibly some Victorian costuming coming up. I do embroidery by hand, so am not really looking for that particular bell and whistle. Looking for a Honda/Ford rather than a Rolls Royce/Mercedes, one that sews through thin and thick and never breaks or gets temperamental. Whaddya reccomend?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 14 replies </div>
using your body to make a dress form
<div>my dress form fell apart, hey it was over 50 years old.... <br/>i can't afford another dress form right now. i was looking a the old post and in the thread topic for directions to make a corset from duct tape, which i have done successfully, there were replies about making a dress form from your body with tape and sometimes stuffing. <br/> <br/>could some when tell me, step by step, how this is done. including how you'd attach a stand <br/> <br/>i am open to different techniques, using different tape or other techniques (non tape) to constructing a dress form. <br/> <br/>i am constructing more costuming of late then i have before and this lack of a dress form i maddening! <br/> <br/>thank you, for your help and ideas</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 3 replies </div>
Source for wool and velvet
<div>http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/ <br/> <br/>Click on swatches to get a larger view. But the best part is, you can order as little as 1/8 yard to get a selvedge-to-selvedge sample before committing. And the prices are reasonable, too.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 2 replies </div>
looking for information about this neckline, help me please?
<div>Well, ok, although we've sort of puzzled over it before. I'm wondering if anyone has any insights about the white pleated thing in the neckline of Promenade: <br/> <br/>http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL417/1033223/19463764/319813302.jpg <br/> <br/>It doesn't look like anything I've seen anywhere else, and the Baroness and I were undecided about whether it was supposed to be part of a smock; the idea of that makes sense, but it doesn't seem to resemble other period smocks. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 5 replies </div>
Hand sewing inspiration
<div>As a hand sewer, seeing the work of other hand sewers is very helpful. It keeps me going and reminds me how good and accurate a hand sewn garment can look. <br/> <br/>Here are a few links to sites and the work of people I've admired for some time. I hope they are as interesting to you as they are to me. <br/> <br/>The first stop is Britain's Tudor Group, which reconstructs domestic life in the late Tudor Era, from sheep shearing on up to an entire upper class household. The Tudor Group is the very best at what it does and maintains a strict, hand stitched policy for all clothing worn by its members. They have long been known for their lower class reconstructions, and have worked up the ladder to upper class, with Sutcliff Manor in 2004, and for the past two years, Haddon Hall. Their over-the-top blue silk suit is probably the finest reconstruction of its type today. <br/> <br/>Members of the group have also contributed to the BBC series "Tales of the Green Valley," and "The Victorian Farm," and consult with the Globe Theater. Other members are active with the Mary Rose Trust and operate a reconstruction of the warship's brick stove, demonstrating how food was cooked for several hundred men at once in the bowels of a Tudor ship. <br/> <br/>This weekend they are showing off several months of hard work with "My Lord and Lady's Chambers," which shows how upper class people dressed and lived. Its held at Haddon Hall again, and should be spectacular. <br/> <br/>http://www.tudorgroup.co.uk/ <br/> <br/>The next few sites show the work of various individuals and groups in Europe, focusing primarily on the Medieval period. Diu Minnezit is in Germany, and focuses on the 1250-1475 period, with garments for men and women rigorously documented, and fabrics (like the Tudor Group) often dyed using correct period methods. <br/> <br/>http://www.diu-minnezit.de/ <br/> <br/>A directly link to the clothes if you cant wait: <br/> <br/>http://www.diu-minnezit.de/realien_kategorie.php?sid=0&amp;lid=0&amp;catid=3&amp;tid=4 <br/> <br/>Next, a series of Swedish reconstructions, including a Landsknecht. Each has a separate section detailing the various components that make up the clothes and with close up images of the garments directly: <br/> <br/>http://histvarld.historiska.se/histvarld/draekter/draekter.html <br/> <br/>Here is another site, where they not only make their own clothes, but everything else by hand, including the scissors. Check out the hand-sewn linen tent, and play around in the links. <br/> <br/>http://kurage.wordpress.com/ <br/> <br/>A big group isn't necessary, and here is the page of a guy who does his own stuff. <br/> <br/>http://historiskdrakt.blogspot.com/2008/06/cotehardie-1300-talets-andra-hlft.html <br/> <br/>I hope this is as helps, <br/> <br/>H <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 8 replies </div>
Duct tape body block
<div>Considering drafting a doublet using this method (putting on a t-shirt, wrapping up the body in duct tape and cutting up the result as pattern pieces) <br/> <br/>Has anyone here tried it? Is it useful?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 47 replies </div>
Costuming in Germany
<div>Y'all know about these folks, right? http://www.mauritia.de/en/</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 2 replies </div>
What is the history of those rag belt things?
<div>You know the ones I mean... Those braided fabric belts, usually bright colors, usually tied around waists of the lower classes..... Are they something that those people would have had? I've often wondered, please enlighten me if you can! Ta. :D</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 18 replies </div>
Sotheby's New Auction
<div>Hello Ladies and Gents, <br/> <br/>The new Sotheby's catalogue is online and seems to have a couple of 'later period' painting included. These have a lovely zoom function available on them. Enjoy! <br/> <br/>http://www.sothebys.com/app/paddleReg/paddlereg.do?dispatch=eventDetails&amp;event_id=29195</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 0 replies </div>
Scanned booklets of antique patterns
<div>I was looking for lace edging patterns and found this site. <br/> <br/>http://www.antiquepatternlibrary.org/completelist.htm <br/> <br/>It is mostly copies of pattern booklets from the late 1800's to early 1900's. <br/> <br/>However, I did find this one on Jacobean Embroidery, it also includes information from the Tudor period. <br/>http://www.antiquepatterns.dreamhosters.com/FitzwilliamJacobean.pdf <br/> <br/>This one is in German, so I don't know what it says, but it has 16th Century embroidery designs in it. <br/>http://www.antiquepatterns.dreamhosters.com/EgenolffModelbuch.pdf <br/> <br/>The German booklet is from http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/index.html which also contains some interesting information that I'm looking forward to reading.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 1 reply </div>
aiglets for shirt points
<div>I can't remember who asked me or how long ago, and I can't find it by searching thr topics weither, so I'll just start fresh. <br/> <br/>Someone asked about the little brass and silver colored tags I (and some others) use to finish points on shirt collars and cuffs. They're hard to describe and, as far as I knew, had vanished from the earth except for the last couple dozen in my bead box--only because I bought a gross of each color about, I dunno, 20 years ago (at Berger Beads in downtown LA.). But lo! Here they are on Ebay! <br/> <br/>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;&amp;item=390021752176&amp;ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1120 <br/> <br/>They're quite small, and just fit on the end of a 1/4" ribbon. fold the piece in half at the waist, then stitch through the holes. Keep it neat, of course. You may want to put a dot of FrayCheck on it too, just in case. Regina Lawson Voorhes found them recently and asked if they were the ones. AND THEY ARE!!!</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 9 replies </div>
Blocked hats
<div>I'd like to make use of the many felt and straw blanks I have. Were blocked hats (NOT fabric covered) period for upper class/nobility???</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 30 replies </div>
Pinking and slashing ...
<div>Looking for some good online resources for pinking and slashing ... I am looking for examples, inspiration, design ideas blah blah blah <br/> <br/>Anyone got a few good links to throw my way? <br/> <br/>Thanks!</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 31 replies </div>
Fabric Sale
<div>Denver Fabrics is having their end of season clearance. Even the 54" cotton velvet is down to $11 a yard. <br/>https://www.denverfabrics.com/ <br/> <br/>Disclaimer: no association with the company except as a customer.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 3 replies </div>
Storage ideas
<div>Since we were talking Studios, and I am working on reorganizing mine... anyone have a suggestion on how to store basket reeds? It is Elizabethan as they were used in my effigy stays and my French farthingale. I thought of zip lock baggies, but I am concerned they would not breathe well in the plastic, and may get brittle or worse. Anyone have any suggestions?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 4 replies </div>
Studios
<div>I'm SO into my studio right now, painting walls and woodwork, setting up new storage, rearranging. I wonder if y'all would be intereseted sharing: <br/> <br/>1) Photos / descriptions of your sewing spaces, <br/>2) Track of / inventory systems for the stash (fabric, notions, etc.), <br/>3) Storage arrangement: by color? fiber? ra? <br/>4) Web resources for staple supplies as well as specialty supplies. <br/> <br/>For example, I just found that www.hardwareworld.com sells peg board hooks so I can get 400 thread-spool-sized L-hooks for $.20/pc rather than local hardware store price - and I can get them in bulk. What sources do you have??</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 42 replies </div>
Queen Elizabeth Re-Enactor
<div>Hello - I am looking for a living historian in the NY metro-area who can play a Queen Elizabeth for weekends this December in a museum setting. If interested, please contact me at mdellacroce@plantingfields.org <br/> <br/>Thank you! <br/>Marianne</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 0 replies </div>
Project organizing
<div>I asked the amazing Kimiko if she had suggestions for organizing projects, as she does for organizing the stash, and yes indeed she did. <br/>http://www.houseofpung.net/ <br/> <br/>I feel more virtuous already.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 7 replies </div>
woven ribbon fabric
<div>So, what do you experts think about woven "ribbon" fabric for doublet onlay/sleeves? Would grosgrain ribbon be okay for this, or would one need to make strips of fabric? </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 27 replies </div>
Anything good here?
<div>I got an email about Showtime's "The Tudors" show, and it said that Museum Replicas was invited to do a Tudor line, based on the show. <br/> <br/>www.museumreplicas.com, then find/hit "shop for licensed products" and find "the Tudors" <br/> <br/>Anything close to authentic here?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing">Elizabethan Clothing</a> - 27 replies </div>

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